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Finland Goose-Stepping into Dark Ages?

Monday, April 18th, 2011

Yesterday, Finland suffered one of the worst election outcomes that any country can hope for. The biggest winner of Finnish elections was The True Finns -party, an extreme right wing, anti-EU, border-closing, xenophobic and strongly religious party that became from one of the small side-notion parties into the third biggest party overnight.

But simultaneously, it was a reminder: no more can we expect politics to happen just by placing the votes and hoping for the best. The years of stability are over, and we’ve got too used to the fact that whatever happens, there’s nothing dramatic happening in the way the new parliament is formed. Well, now it is. Goose-stepping (well, maybe “goose-wobbling” is a more accurate term in these circumstances) into the Parliament are waves of unexperienced, loud-mouthed right-wingers who will have their hands full trying to make Finland into a more closed, nationalistic  and narrow-minded country.

This means we need to activate, help our parties, candidates and MPs to fight against this regression. Especially now it is not time to leave the country. Also, to every candidate who didn’t get elected, now it is not time to quit. The next four years are going to be harsh, but the next elections are coming, and more than ever, we need the people to activate politically, to work their asses off to get their candidates to the parliament, and make room for reasonable politics again. Go out and find what you can do for your party, candidates or MPs, support them any way you can – whether it is by officially becoming a member of the party, supporting your candidate’s efforts to get elected in the municipal elections, support them financially, and eventually building up a good counter-response for next parliament elections.

Remember, this is not the end of the world. For the next years we may feel like we’re watching an extreme slow-motion train wreck taking place in the Finnish parliament, but there’s going to be new elections in just few years, and then it’s time to clean up the mess that’s been made, and start re-building.

We need be aware of what’s going on in the politics. We all know it’s a dead-boring issue, but not following what’s happening is great grounds for the extremist takeovers. The right wing has always gained more popularity during the financially harsh times, and each country in EU is facing hard times explaining the citizens why helping out a country you’ve once visited in for a holiday is actually necessary for better tomorrow. Fueling its rocket from this unclarity, and pumping some more gas from problematic immigration issues like the Romanian beggars and refugee family unification, the party is set to go, and get all of those who’ve never understood a word of international politics to get activated and to vote. And when you have a trustingly smiling True Finn leader who everyone can identify with, we have a scary movement with enough fuel to go this far.

The only positive thing about Finnish elections were that Wille Rydman didn’t get to the Parliament, although he did get way too close. I’m also happy in a bittersweet way to see that the Pirates were left on shore to develope their party (or maybe to form a new one, excluding the racist-chauvinists, silver surfers and candidates who think that comics about ass-raping are a good way to promote adult discussion over information society), because the issues they are pushing forward are way too important to be handled by random bunch trolls.

I’ve thought about an Internet service I call “Follow Your Representative”. It would be a social media news source moderated by independent entities, feeding the news and the official parliament records on the doings of the elected parliament members, and reminding of the election promises they were promoting to get elected. In the service, the audience can easily follow what their candidate has actually been doing during his or her’s service, vote how well they’ve kept to their promises, follow on how many parliament sessions they’ve attended, what they’ve voted Yay or Nay  for, and discuss and possibly even directly communicate with the MP. I’m not one to do this service, but I’m hoping someone would – so that in four years time, we’d have a good database of what the elected parliament members have been doing during their term, and if they are worth a re-vote.

One thing which tells me that things are not progressing the right direction is that for the first time in my blogging life, I’m just a little bit afraid to push “send”, after writing an article that’s criticizing the right wing national movement in Finland. These guys now have the power, and we’ve seen where that leads.

Let’s make sure it doesn’t get further than this.

M. Night Shyamalan refuses to go away.

Thursday, October 21st, 2010

We had a long debate with Essi the other day about M. Night Shyamalan. I felt that the guy’s work is getting more annoying by every film he does, but Essi thought that although that might be the case, the guy has proven himself as a director, and just needs the right project to re-establish himself. I found myself standing corrected.

Well, One Thousand A.E. just might be that. It’s a film written by Gary Whitta (The Book of Eli), which makes it the first Shyamalan picture not written by the man himself. Maybe, just maybe that’s a good thing. My thinking, although, is that what Shyamalan needs is a budget restrictions – smaller, tighter budgets that would force him to really push his skills to the limit to deliver. A bit of belt-squeezing might be an essential thing to make him re-invent himself, and put him back as one of the directors to look out for. But, given that One Thousand A.E. is a scifi, and the name itself does sound quite epic, it might be another Airbender in the works.

Here’s an article about One Thousand A.E. on The Hollywood Reporter. It just leaves me wonder, where’s the twist? That it’s actually One Thousand B.C., but nobody knew it?

(Via Borys Kit / The Hollywood Reporter)

Death of a CD/DVD/BluRay?

Thursday, October 21st, 2010

TechCrunch just wrote an article claiming today being officially the death of compact discs (basically in any format, be it CD, DVD or BluRay). Their reasoning was because the writer MG Siegler had realized he hadn’t used the DVD drive of his MacBook ever for anything. With computers, I’m quite confident that’s the future, and I couldn’t be more happier with it. But what about film industry? When do we get rid of the DVDs and BluRays, and do we even want to?

I’m all for digital distribution, all for the easiest flow of entertainment. But looking around my house right now, I’m unfortunately not seeing an easy way out when it comes to films. And again, unlike with those horrible computer program boxes filled with nothing but air, I do have a mental attachment to our DVD collection. It’s not huge, but it’s cute. In a bachelor nerd way. And compared to a collection of computer program boxes, that become historical relics after just one year when a new version of the program has replaced the earlier one, these are eternal. And by eternal I mean they last 15-20 years. But that’s ten-twenty times longer than a computer program. And even a computer game – watching a wall full of computer games, it’s not quite likely you find yourself in a sudden rush of nostalgia, pull out your old Amiga, set it up, install Monkey Island 2 and spend few hours playing it. It sounds great, but really for that to happen… I don’t think so.

There's a bunch of 'em. Not a huge collection, and a bit messy, but good stuff there is!

So DVDs and BluRays have more collecting value. But in addition to that, still looking around my house and the equipment I have, there’s absolutely no way a digital download of a film would be superior to a physical high quality BluRay, 1080p, 5.1 sound, the works. Connecting my computer through a display port to a HDMI adapter to my TV, then pulling out an optical cable and rigging it to my laptop, then downloading the 1080p file from a pirate site, watching it… It’s just too much hassle, a hassle which I can get around by just walking to Sokos next door, grabbing the desired BluRay, sticking it to my PS3 and kaboom, it’s on. It’s easily something I’m happy to pay 20-30 bucks, and then – I have the physical copy in my collection, available for watching quickly anytime I want. And more than that, just a glance on the wall of my room, and registering titles like Terminator 2, Citizen Kane, American Beauty, Big Fish – even unconsciously – makes me feel like I’m in a good place. Somehow, watching the same names typed on a computer screen with 10pt Tahoma don’t work the same way.

So, the reason BluRays (and DVDs) will live on for at least another 10 years are three:

1) As a physical item, they have a collecting and portability value.
2) As long as hooking your laptop to your home entertainment system requires even hooking one cord somewhere, it’s not working.
3) As long as there’s no reasonable online version that will provide the easiness, the enjoyment of collectibility and the quality of a BluRay.

The conclusion is: digital distribution is not killing the film business. It adds a new customer segment, that will merge *in the future* to the existing one, making it stronger. But as long as the digital pioneers are being punished for the mistakes the industry makes, there’s not enough synergy that this would happen. Hunting “pirates” should end, and we should come up together with the industry, the audience, the film buffs, the Internet and the filmmakers a distribution system that’s making sense so that the merging from physical units to digital distribution would be painless, productive, profitable and possible.

Ugh. Ramble off.

Pride And Prejudice And The Walking Dead

Thursday, October 21st, 2010

A bit of Zombie news, for a change. I happened to buy the copy of Pride and Prejudice and Zombies by Seth Grahame-Smith quite randomly from Brisbane, and haven’t read a page of it. More than a book I want to read, it’s a book I want to own. But nevertheless, a film of it is coming up, yet it’s still quite ambiguous what kind of a film – directed by who and starred by who – it’s going to be. But more than a film I want to see, it’s a film that I’m happy to see get made. It might be directed by David Slade, or Mike Newell, or Neil Marshall, or … well, it basically could be anybody who’s done some sort of a genre hit lately. Yet I’d be happiest to see it being directed by Finland’s own AJ Annila. That would bring an interesting angle to the film indeed.

In other news, there’s been obviously a lot of talk about The Walking Dead TV-series lately, and as far as I can gather, it’s premiering on Halloween somewhere in the states, and exactly 30 seconds after it’s out, also on Pirate Bay. Latest bit of goodies are the new behind the scenes shots from the makeup studio of The Walking Dead, available here. Oh, and here’s the trailer for the series, check it out.

(Via GeekTyrant)

Darren Aronofsky to direct Wolverine 2

Wednesday, October 20th, 2010

One would imagine the weak performance of X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009) would’ve discouraged the sequel, but it seems that instead of giving up the fight, Wolverine is coming back bigger and more promising than ever. Director Darren Aronofsky, who we’ve learned to love in such films as Requiem for a Dream (2000) and The Wrestler (2008), is going to direct the script written by Christopher McQuarrie, and for a good reason, Wolvie himself (Hugh Jackman) is hyped up about it:

This is, hopefully for me, going to be out of the box. It’s going to be the best one, I hope. Well, I would say that, but I really do feel that, and I feel this is going to be very different. This is Wolverine. This is not Popeye. He’s kind of dark. But, you know, this is a change of pace. Chris McQuarrie, who wrote The Usual Suspects, has written the script, so that’ll give you a good clue. [Aronofsky’s] going to make it fantastic. There’s going to be some meat on the bones. There will be something to think about as you leave the theater, for sure.

Think whatever you will from the blurb, but it makes me feel the project means a lot to Hugh. And although the first part was crap, I still think Wolverine is the most interesting character in the Marvel good guys lineup, and deserves a decent film.


(Via GeekTyrant)

Man Bites Man – A “Vampires” Review

Wednesday, August 25th, 2010

Considering the heaps of shit that keep on flowing out from the tubes dressed up as vampires these days, I’m not envious of the directors who decide to invest their time and enthusiasm on just another vampire story set in the modern world. Vampires (2009) does that. But in order to deliver something new, one needs to face the Big Three of the modern Vampires – True Blood, Let The Right One In and Twilight, each in their own fields of expertise.

Belgian director Vincent Lannoo has been able to find an approach vector that hasn’t been explored thoroughly yet – a mocumentary with a black comedy twist (well, they all have that, don’t they). He leads the viewers with the camera crew into the world of a perfectly normal Belgian middle-class family: a man, a wife and two teenage kids – but all vampires.

As any mocumentary, the film consists of interviews with the family members and important people around them, mixed with being in the middle of the action with the cameras, stitched together to form a story. Vampires basically a reprise of Man Bites Dog (1992), the famous belgian black comedy mocu which follows the life of a serial killer – only much less shocking. Where Man Bites Dog goes deep into the psyche of a contract killer, Vampires stays on top of the mythos, never actually digging its teeth deep enough to make us believe that there really is tens of thousands of years of vampire culture behind this modern vampire family.

Vampires feels thin… Sort of stretched, like… butter scraped over too much bread. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the story, the fresh take on a worn-out mythos, and the work the actors did. But in the end, Vampires is a joke – quite a good one, I must admit – that’s been told for a bit too long by a guy who loves his voice a bit too much. It’s bound to make you laugh, but it’s 20 minutes too long, and a bit too obvious.

Had this film been done in the 90s, it would’ve become a legend. But today, the viewers expect more. See, in modern vampire film, if you even so much as mention “count Dracula”, you’re out of the game.

Why I left FaceBook

Wednesday, April 28th, 2010

One of the things that I hate in life are impolite jerks. You know, the kind of people who just don’t give a shit about other people around them, and just steamroll on doing things their way, the way it suits them the best.

I just left FaceBook because that’s how I started to feel about the service, especially after its recent implementation of the Like-button. If you’re logged in to FaceBook, and go to a web page which has the new FaceBook’s Like-button, instantly FaceBook knows you’ve visited that site – without you necessarily taking any action on the site, whatsoever. For a much better article on the issue at hands, read more from here:

Philosophical Zombie

TechCrunch

The Like-functionality is almost like those bonus cards or loyalty programs in the supermarket chains – in Finland, S-kortti, Plussa etc. They exist only for one reason: to get to know what people buy to know how to sell their stuff to them more efficiently. But unlike FaceBook, they at least have the dignity to claim that they are paying back something for you for letting them know your shopping lists daily – in the form of bonuses and/or discounts. And – more importantly – I can easily decide not to use the cards when I don’t feel like it.

When it comes to the Internet, I’m not comfortable with the idea of somebody being able to monitor most of the websites I visit. It’s my own personal matter where I download my porn, where I find my Torrents and where I go “anonymously” trolling just for the fun of it. And although the new “Like”-button is not completely rupturing my privacy on the Internet – and definitively, it’s not the first one to do it like that – it offends me the way they slide this feature out as if it was something cool and fitting to the world of social media, sharing is caring and all that bullshit – forgetting to mention that fact it’s just their way to dig out my website history to be able to push their ads and who knows what else. We all know FaceBook like any company out there – has an agenda, and they won’t be stopping to this.

The reason this saddens me is because I like FaceBook. I was among the first ones signing up to it from Finland, and I’ve been using it quite a lot for both professional and personal matters – and I still do. Iron Sky group, or page, or Like-thing or whatever it’s turning and changing into – has been, is, and will be a very effective way to communicate the progress of the film to our fans. Same goes with ZombieRoom’s and Wreckamovie’s pages. I’m the first one to admit that I’m trying to exploit FaceBook to the max, without an intention to pay them a dime – and I’m getting the feeling that’s exactly their plan, too. And that’s just not OK.

Quitting FaceBook over the Like-button was not the main reason – if it was, I wouldn’t be using Google’s services, or basically any other social network out there. The thing is, I just don’t like their style. FaceBook is like the hunkiest douchebag in the bar. You know the type, the guy with enormous muscles and fake tan and bleached teeth. He gets to act just as badly as he wants, but there’s still always people swarming around him. Sometimes big online services just go into that path and never come back, and I don’t need that kind of shit around me.

But FaceBook always gets the final word. You can’t never leave FaceBook completely. Not even if you die.

I’m still up on the Internet, without FaceBook – you can follow me over Twitter, and read our blogs at Zombie Room and Iron Sky, watch how I Trek, or reach me via eMail.

DEMAND “Lucky Luke” To A Theatre Near You!!!

Friday, October 23rd, 2009

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The idea for this blog came to my head when I was reading an article in Geek Tyrant demanding James Huth’s Lucky Luke to be distributed theatrically in the United States. I also realized that Twitch, CHUD, and Cinematical were also supporting the same cause. I decided to join these guys and also demand Lucky Luke to America. But I won’t stop there; I also DEMAND it to Finland (where I live)! On top of this I would like to ask everyone who wants to see this film, to take a stand and demand it to your country, where ever you might live. You can do this by writing about it in your blog or by sharing the blog articles mentioned above. But what if there was another way to do it, an easier and more effective way?

This seemed like the perfect opportunity to talk about the DEMAND phenomenon. I have been following Paranormal Activity’s marketing campaign very closely and I’m really impressed on just how fresh and effective it has been. The marketing team has really taken advantage of the internet and asked people to take a stand and make themselves heard. This is something we here in Zombie Room believe in very strongly.

Here’s what they did. You go to the official site and the page looks like this.

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In the right upper corner you can see this little button that says “Demand it!”.

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You press that button and the site re-directs you to a site where you can DEMAND the movie to your city. I of course demanded to see the movie in Helsinki, but you can easily change the country and city to your liking (you can also see the number of people who are demanding to see the movie and where). Like so.

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Also it is very clear that it works! People have been demanding and their demands are being heard!

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After this you get a confirmation e-mail where you can easily share this information to your friends by using Facebook, Twitter etc.

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It’s easy and effective! Now, what if you could do this with Lucky Luke? Or with every movie for that matter! There are a number of movies I would love to see in a theatre screen in Finland, Lucky Luke is just one of them. The great thing about this service is that one demand equals one to-be-bought movie ticket. The service gives power to the actual audience to make a difference, to give them what they want! Lucky Luke has gotten a lot of attention in the internet lately, and why not, it looks amazing! If the movie would have this service, I’m sure the demand-rate would be very high all over the world.

Here’s the trailer (thank you Twitch for sharing it).

If you liked what you saw, make yourself heard and DEMAND it!!!

9 Questi9ns Ab9ut “9″

Tuesday, October 6th, 2009

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If you’ve seen the movie 9 your head might be filled with unanswered questions and you might feel a bit confused. Don’t worry, that’s the proper and only way to feel. If you haven’t seen the movie, well then you’re probably better off…

WARNING: SPOILERS AHEAD (If you read on and I spoil the movie for you, it’s your own damn fault)!!!

9 is an animated fantasy adventure directed Shane Acker. It is the feature-length expansion of his Academy Award-nominated 2005 short film of the same name. The story is set in the near future when the world has come to an end after a war between men and machines (you know, like in Terminator basically). With the last breath of humanity a scientist makes 9 small creations to sustain life on earth before dying himself.

Here is the trailer…

… and also the 2005 short film, that the movie is based on.

So far so good, right? WRONG! The sorry excuse for a story doesn’t hold a candle to the amazing visuals (which is a damn shame). The story is wafer thin and so full of plot holes, that it makes the viewing experience a bit frustrating. Even the characters themselves seem to have a huge question mark imprinted in their facial expressions all trough the movie (with those round bug eyes). WHA WHA WHAAT???

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The story starts when #9 is created (voiced by Elijah Wood). He start looking for answers and finds #2 (Martin Landau). Right after they meet, a horrible dog-like creature called the Beast attacks them and takes #2 away. From this point on #9 is obsessively driven to save him and everyone else. So here’s my first question.

1) Why #9 (the protagonist) does what he does? He starts off as this fragile and scared person, who suddenly transforms into a brave warrior. I can almost buy into the fact that he wants to save #2, because he saved #9′s life first. But when the story goes on it just doesn’t make much sense. Soon after, #9 finds #1 (Christopher Plummer), #8 (Fred Tatasciore), #6 (Crispin Glover) and #5 (John C. Reilly). He tries to get them to help #2, but #1 is against this because it would be too dangerous. Later on #9 discovers that #1 has send #2 out on purpose (to die), because he was old and was asking too many questions.

2) How the hell is #2 old, if he is not human and he was created just a short while ago? Did the scientist make him old on purpose or what? This doesn’t make any friggin’ sense. The timelines are all mixed up. Well anyway, #9 won’t take no for an answer and persuades #5 to go with him. #9 and #5 arrive to the old factory, where the Beast had taken #2, who they find alive. The Beast is there and they fight. Suddenly from thin air #7 (Jennifer Connelly) emerges and kills the Beast like it was nothing. Mind you that the Beast is supposedly the only machine left, and has been agonizing our creatures for a long time now.

3) So why is it suddenly so easy to kill the only threat they had? Why weren’t they able to do that before? Well there is no answer except deus ex machina. They kill the Beast and free #2. But in the middle of all this #9 inserts a small device that I call a thingamajig (which he found from the scientists study earlier) into the Great Machine.

4) Why the hell #9 inserts the thingamajig into the Great Machine? WHYYYY????!!!! This bit drove me crazy. It is just shown a few seconds ago that the Beast was trying to do the exact same thing. HELLO!!! Usually you do the opposite than the bad guys are doing! This brain fart of an idea of course awakens the Great Machine, that immediately starts building more machines. So now it’s 9 little rag dolls against hundreds of killer robots. This also raises the question:

5) Why wasn’t the Great Machine working before? Why wasn’t there any other robots left? I would understand if the war would have been fought a 100 years ago, but the human bodies laying around implicate that the war ended like a week ago. I just can’t wrap my brain around it. Well then…

6) Did the scientist have something to do with this? In the end of the movie it is revealed that it was the same scientist who had created the Great Machine. It is implicated (but not explained in any way) that maybe the scientist had taken the thingamajig out from the Machine, thus enabling it. Also when the Machine is awaken it kills #2 by sucking something that seems to be his life force (soul) out of him. Way to go #9! Because of you #2 is now dead and now you have hundreds of killer robots after you. I mean, what the f*ck were you thinking?!? At this point I had to ask myself…

7. Why did I go see this movie? Well, this I actually can answer. It’s simple. The movie had so much promise and potential. The visual world is great and Tim Burton is one of the producers. So why not, right? About that same time I was also wondering…

8. Why is #8 getting his rocks off with a magnet? I know this is not a plot hole or anything like that, it was just a bit weird.

9. What is up with that anti-climax ending? Before the movie is over, the Great Machine has killed three other creatures. No wrong in that, but it is clearly implicated that the life forces or souls of the creatures are trapped in the Machine and by destroying it, the souls can go free and the creatures can be brought back to life. But noooo. After the creatures get the thingamajig out of the Machine and destroy it, the souls just simply rise to the heavens with a very religious wibe.  And then, it starts to rain…

Ok, my point is, the story leaves out so many things that you spend all of your time wondering and pondering, instead of concentrating on the movie.

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So the bottom line is that the movie feels fast and unthought. Like there just wasn’t enough material to go on. The movie has great themes, that get lost in the mess. What you need to realize is that in the fantasy genre you can get away with anything if you just give you viewers the right instructions.

But truth be told, it’s not all bad. At times the movie is actually pretty decent. I loved the “steampunk”-styled visual world and the grim killer robots that the Great Machine created. Also the all-star voice cast was quite enjoyable (nothing special, but still enjoyable).

All and all I give the movie 2 1/2 stars. It could easily have been a four star movie, but the script just didn’t work.

What Became of Us: The Attack of the Amateurs!

Friday, October 2nd, 2009

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On Wednesday was the premiere of a Finnish indie movie What Became of Us. This was actually the second screening of the film in Finland since it was also shown to a sold out theatre in Love & Anarchy film festival a couple of weeks ago. The Zombies were invited to the premiere and after seeing the movie I felt compelled to spill my guts about the experience.

First off you should know that What Became of Us is a no-budget movie that is completely independently made. There is no distributor, no professional actors or even professional film makers involved. Regardless of this What Became of Us is one the best Finnish movies I have seen in years. It is not even in comparison to most of the so-called professional films that are produced in Finland each year. And do you know why? The answer is simple; the movie actually manages to move, make you laugh and surprise you. This is unfortunately more than I can say about most Finnish movies.

It was clear from the beginning that the movie is made with love and true passion for film making. Even the opening speeches felt different and I could have listened them for hours. The true power of the movie comes from the amazing script, combined with great acting and of course the directors ability to tell a story. It’s the perfect example that you don’t always need money to make a great film, after all it’s about telling stories and telling them well.

What Became of Us is a movie about friendship. It’s a tale of gathering of the former elementary school classmates. At the climax of the story is the class reunion, set on a cruise ship. In the chilling night even the most kept secrets of the past are revealed by the salty sea wind. Only the debt of gratitude of one bullied young man can save the classmates from certain death. Check out the trailer below.

The film is directed by the multi-talented Miika Ullakko, who is also responsible for writing the script and playing one of the lead characters. The movie is more or less a sequel to his award-winning first feature film Graffiti Within, that was also made independently and with only 2000 euros or so in 2006. Here is the trailer, unfortunately I couldn’t find one with english subtitles.

For the past few days I’ve been asking myself what is the difference between an amateur and a professional film maker? The description for amateur from Wikipedia says: “An amateur is generally considered a person attached to a particular pursuit, study, or science, without formal training or pay. An amateur receives little or irregular income from their activities, and differs from a professional who makes a living from the pursuit and typically has some formal training and certifications in the domain. Translated from its French origin to the English “lover”, the term “amateur” reflects a voluntary motivation to work as a result of personal interest in the activity.”

Of course these are just words and pointless titles per se, but as long as you a considered an “amateur”, finding a distributor for your film can be very difficult. If your movie isn’t funded trough governmental money, you don’t exist basically. Even if you have made the best movie of the year, you can’t get help for example making a film print to send to festivals, or you don’t get considered for the Finnish Oscar, the Jussi Award. This doesn’t seem quite right…

I admire the spirit and determination of the film makers and actors involved in What Became of Us. I for one am inspired and a bit more hopeful about the future of Finnish cinema.

Unfortunately I don’t have any news on when or where you could see this movie, but as soon as I do, I will be sure to post it here. Until then visit the official site for more info. And stay tuned for more coverage on these guys and their plans for the future.

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